A Conversation with Dr Geraldine Burke and Prof Rita Irwin on the visual essay: Beyond the matter: collaborative call-and-response learning with bioplastic and Padlet.

This video features a conversation between Prof Rita Irwin and Dr Geraldine Burke who discuss a visual research led by Nnenna Okore, entitled ' Beyond the matter: collaborative call-and-response learning with bioplastic and Padlet. Rita was a reviewer for this work and offers comment on the value of an arts-based approach to research and its merit in a journal such as EER.